Thank you for these illuminating statements. I’ve heard that Hart believes in an ahistorical fall but haven’t seen his exposition of the logistics. In a sense this helps relieve me of some of the concern I had over the implications of You are Gods by admitting suffering can be turned to good. I feel though like Hart does miss something with the possibility of Christ meeting us in our sufferings for on earth he bore them. He crossed out the distance between aeon or the unknown earth beyond it by descent into chronos. Into fallen time, he voluntarily came into being from beyond being, and suffered our sufferings and infinitely more if we are to believe Maximus.
Hart would agree that Christ unites the core seed of truth within every moment of fallen time to the fullness of life with God in unfallen time and that Christ does this by his voluntary suffering and death with us. I’m sure you’ve seen this attempt that I made to survey Hart regarding some of this?
Just watched the whole video and enjoyed it a lot, Doors of the Sea is one of my favorite books. The parts were he talks about children and his own son are very moving to me, as a father of three small kids. I love them so much. We're all eagerly waiting for the Last Music and for our spiritual creation to be completed!
Our complete freedom of will:
https://open.substack.com/pub/stevenberger/p/behold-i-show-you-a-mystery?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=1nm0v2
Thank you for these illuminating statements. I’ve heard that Hart believes in an ahistorical fall but haven’t seen his exposition of the logistics. In a sense this helps relieve me of some of the concern I had over the implications of You are Gods by admitting suffering can be turned to good. I feel though like Hart does miss something with the possibility of Christ meeting us in our sufferings for on earth he bore them. He crossed out the distance between aeon or the unknown earth beyond it by descent into chronos. Into fallen time, he voluntarily came into being from beyond being, and suffered our sufferings and infinitely more if we are to believe Maximus.
Hart would agree that Christ unites the core seed of truth within every moment of fallen time to the fullness of life with God in unfallen time and that Christ does this by his voluntary suffering and death with us. I’m sure you’ve seen this attempt that I made to survey Hart regarding some of this?
https://afkimel.wordpress.com/2024/03/03/a-human-fall-from-out-of-another-kind-of-time/
I just wanted to say thanks for this and all your posts here and else where
Most welcome!
Just watched the whole video and enjoyed it a lot, Doors of the Sea is one of my favorite books. The parts were he talks about children and his own son are very moving to me, as a father of three small kids. I love them so much. We're all eagerly waiting for the Last Music and for our spiritual creation to be completed!